Buhari spoke about the ongoing political situation, his
thoughts about Obasanjo’s endorsement and how he’ll fight corruption and
Boko Haram if he becomes president.
Here’s a full transcript of the interview:
Amanpour: General, welcome to the programme.
Can I ask you first your reaction to the delay in this
election by six weeks and to what you just heard President Jonathan say
that they will make inroads into much more security within the next six
weeks?
Buhari: Well, my reaction is that of
disappointment, because the presentation made by INEC was that they were
ready to conduct the election on the date they fixed a year ago, and
for them to be forced virtually by the military that they cannot
guarantee the safety of their workers, they have to concede to the
demand of the military [for an] additional six weeks.
Now since those six weeks are within the constitutional
time allowed, this was why we came and asked our supporters to remain
calm and resolute and obey the laws.
Amanpour: Okay General, let me ask you
because you’re a former military general: You were ruling the country
briefly. Why is it that the Nigerian military today cannot take on Boko
Haram and have failed to combat that terrorist organisation?
Buhari: Well this has been made much more
clear when the National Assembly attempted to conduct a hearing after
the soldiers were giving interviews to foreign media about being sent to
the front without proper weapons. The National Assembly attempted to
conduct a hearing by getting the budgets approved by the National
Assembly over the last three years and inviting the service chiefs to
come and tell them [why the] weapons were not procured and sent to the
soldiers — and competent leadership. And that hearing was scuttled.
So in short, it’s the misapplication or misappropriation of
the resources provided by the government for weapons. That’s why the
Nigerian military was unable to defeat Boko Haram.
Amanpour: General, you today just got a
huge endorsement from a former ally of President Jonathan. That is the
former president Obasanjo. How do you react to that, I mean what would
that do for your campaign?
Buhari: Well it would certainly bring more
supporters to us and more confidence again to us from those who were
sitting on the fence, because General Obasanjo is highly respected and
as far as Nigerians [issues are] concerned, there’s no serious issue
that can be discussed without people seeking for his opinion and
listening to it.
Amanpour: Can I now ask you about yourself
because headlines around the world are portraying this election as a
choice between a failed president and a former dictator — and you’re the
former dictator according to these headlines.
You know, people say — and they remember — that you
expelled 700,00 migrants years ago thinking that would create jobs, that
you’ve banned political meetings and free speech, that you’ve detained
thousands of people, secret tribunals, executing people for crimes that
were not capital offences. Have you changed or is this what the Nigerian
people have to look forward to?
Buhari: Well all those things you
mentioned, with a degree of accuracy of actually what happened, was then
under a military administration, and when that military adminstration
came under my leadership, we — the military — suspended the part of the
constitution that we felt would be difficult for us to operate under
those circumstances. So I think I’m being judged harshly as an
individual that what happened during the military administration can be
extended under a multiparty democracy system.
Amanpour: Okay so now you say you’re a
democrat. What do you think you can do to combat Boko Haram and to
combat the galloping corruption in your country?
Buhari: Well, Boko Haram, we know how it
started. Certainly the Nigerian military that built our reputation
internationally for effectiveness, it’s a great embarrassment to them
and to the country that they haven’t been able to secure [Nigeria’s]
territory of an area of 14 local governments out of 774 local
governments.
I believed this problem will not be too difficult for [our]
APC government because we know the Nigerian military is competent. It’s
a question of making sure the money voted for equipment and training
[is] properly utilised.
Amanpour: About corruption, there’s so
many complaints from many people around your country about massive
corruption they say. Can you face up against them? Are you committed to
rooting out corruption?
Buhari: We have to, because there are
serious citizens of this country that say unless Nigeria kills
corruption, corruption will kill Nigeria. And that’s best illustrated by
another hearing conducted by the National Assembly on pension fund,
electricity and then the corruption in the petroleum industry from where
the country derives over 90% in external revenue.
The National Assembly conducted a hearing here in Abuja and
in the six geopolitical zones of the country, then they took the
recommendation to the executive. And it’s been collecting dust for the
past 18 months.